Editing Template talk:Documentation (section)

== Update sandbox icon to match all other templates ==
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I think [[:File:Sandbox.svg|the icon]] that currently appears when viewing the sandbox of a template (which seems to come from [[Module:Documentation/config#L-34]] and [[Template:Template sandbox notice]]) doesn't represent the concept well. (See an [[Template:Format/sandbox|example of how it looks]].) The sand is too brown, the lighting is off (all three objects seem to receive light from different light sources), and the colours are unusual. And it's not even a "sand box"! ''There is no box in the sandbox icon...''

{{ombox
  |image = [[File:Sandbox.svg|50px|alt=|link=]]
  |text = This is the [[Wikipedia:Template sandbox and test cases|template sandbox]] page for {{#if:|[[]]|[[:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}]]__EXPECTUNUSEDTEMPLATE__}}{{#if:{{REVISIONID}}
   |&#32;([{{fullurl:Special:ComparePages | page1={{#if:|{{FULLPAGENAMEE:}}|{{NAMESPACEE}}:{{BASEPAGENAMEE}}}}&page2={{FULLPAGENAMEE}}}} diff])
   |<!-- hide when previewing -->
  }}.{{#ifexist:{{#rel2abs: ../testcases}}
   | &#32;See also the companion subpage for [[../testcases|test cases]].
  }} 
 }}

I think it should be updated to use [[:File:Edit In Sandbox Icon - Color.svg|the standard sandbox icon]], already used in all other sandbox templates, such as [[Template:Sandbox heading]], [[Template:Sandbox notice]], [[Template:Template sandbox]], [[Template:Template sandbox heading]], [[Template:Not a sandbox]], and [[Template:X20|more]]. 

{{ombox
  |image = [[File:Edit In Sandbox Icon - Color.svg|50px|alt=|link=]]
  |text = {{pb}}This is the [[Wikipedia:Template sandbox and test cases|template sandbox]] page for {{#if:|[[]]|[[:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}]]__EXPECTUNUSEDTEMPLATE__}}{{#if:{{REVISIONID}}
   |&#32;([{{fullurl:Special:ComparePages | page1={{#if:|{{FULLPAGENAMEE:}}|{{NAMESPACEE}}:{{BASEPAGENAMEE}}}}&page2={{FULLPAGENAMEE}}}} diff])
   |<!-- hide when previewing -->
  }}.{{#ifexist:{{#rel2abs: ../testcases}}
   | &#32;See also the companion subpage for [[../testcases|test cases]].{{pb}}
  }} 
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This icon uses less daunting colours and is more detailed while also adding more items to the box, such as the pencil and the document being changed. [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 16:32, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
:Since this page is whatchlisted by 165 editors and none have responded after 17 days, I'll assume there's [[WP:SILENT]] consensus and apply the tper template. [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 17:18, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
::{{complete2}}. '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I.&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''&thinsp;,&nbsp;[[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]]&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|''welcome!'']]&nbsp;–&nbsp;<small>18:15, 13 October 2025 (UTC)</small>
:::Thanks @[[User:Paine Ellsworth|Paine Ellsworth]], but I noticed that the old icon is still present in the editnotice when editing a template, such as here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Village_pump_page_header&action=edit]. <s>I think this may be caused by [[Module:Documentation]] itself? Could you try making this change to [[Module:Documentation]]? [[Special:Diff/1280044025/1318783040]].</s><s>It's possible not even this will fix it, but </s> I can't manage to find the origin of that specific edit notice. [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 00:04, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
:::: That edit can't possibly do anything because it's in a Lua comment. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 00:05, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::Yeah I thought it could be a comment, since it was gray and in italic. Does anyone know where that editnotice is coming from? [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 00:07, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::FOUND IT! It comes from [[Template:Editnotices/Namespace/Template]] and [[Template:Editnotices/Namespace/Module]]. The reason i couldn't find it is because it uses a .PNG file instead of the newer .SVG file. This is the change in [[Template:Editnotices/Namespace/Template]] that would fix the image:{{pb}}<!-- Generated using w:en:User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh/FormattedEditRequest -->
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| class="diff-context diff-side-deleted" | <nowiki>   |testcases &lt;small style="font-style: normal"&gt;([{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}/testcases|action=edit&amp;preload=Template:Documentation/preload-testcases}} create])&lt;/small&gt;</nowiki>
| class="diff-context diff-side-added" | <nowiki>   |testcases &lt;small style="font-style: normal"&gt;([{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}/testcases|action=edit&amp;preload=Template:Documentation/preload-testcases}} create])&lt;/small&gt;</nowiki>
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| class="diff-context diff-side-deleted" | <nowiki>  }} pages.</nowiki>
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| class="diff-addedline diff-side-added" | <nowiki>  | image = [[File:</nowiki><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><nowiki>Edit In </nowiki></ins><nowiki>Sandbox</nowiki><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><nowiki> Icon - Color</nowiki></ins><nowiki>.</nowiki><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><nowiki>svg</nowiki></ins><nowiki>|40px|alt=|link=]]</nowiki>
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:::::{{pb}}And change [[Template:Editnotices/Namespace/Module]] to:<br><!-- Generated using w:en:User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh/FormattedEditRequest -->
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| class="diff-context diff-side-deleted" | <nowiki>   |testcases &lt;small style="font-style: normal"&gt;([{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}/testcases|action=edit&amp;preload=Template:Documentation/preload-module-testcases}} create])&lt;/small&gt;</nowiki>
| class="diff-context diff-side-added" | <nowiki>   |testcases &lt;small style="font-style: normal"&gt;([{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}/testcases|action=edit&amp;preload=Template:Documentation/preload-module-testcases}} create])&lt;/small&gt;</nowiki>
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| class="diff-context diff-side-deleted" | <nowiki>  }} pages.</nowiki>
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| class="diff-addedline diff-side-added" | <nowiki>  | image = [[File:</nowiki><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><nowiki>Edit In </nowiki></ins><nowiki>Sandbox</nowiki><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><nowiki> Icon - Color</nowiki></ins><nowiki>.</nowiki><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><nowiki>svg</nowiki></ins><nowiki>|40px|alt=|link=]]</nowiki>
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:::::{{pb}}And this change to [[Template:Editnotices/Page/Template:Old moves/doc]]:<br><!-- Generated using w:en:User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh/FormattedEditRequest -->
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| class="diff-context diff-side-deleted" | <nowiki>| text = Editors can experiment in this documentation page's [[Template:Old moves/doc/sandbox|sandbox]].</nowiki>
| class="diff-context diff-side-added" | <nowiki>| text = Editors can experiment in this documentation page's [[Template:Old moves/doc/sandbox|sandbox]].</nowiki>
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| class="diff-addedline diff-side-added" | <nowiki>| image =</nowiki><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><nowiki> Edit In</nowiki></ins><nowiki> Sandbox</nowiki><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><nowiki> Icon - Color</nowiki></ins><nowiki>.</nowiki><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><nowiki>svg</nowiki></ins>
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|} [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 00:15, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
::::::Have always found it weird we use a cat [[litter box]] over a practice icon. <span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:-15deg;color:darkblue">'''[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]'''</span><span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:15deg;color:darkblue">[[User talk:Moxy|🍁]]</span> 15:57, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::::I believe the icon is actually just a [https://www.google.com/search?num=10&newwindow=1&sca_esv=50bc830c1331a679&sxsrf=AE3TifOruT08uE3j8E4hV6QT0o83FU8zaw:1761494349411&udm=2&fbs=AIIjpHxU7SXXniUZfeShr2fp4giZrjP_Cx0LI1Ytb_FGcOviEsFlSFI0ur0eAAE6ZS9wNBqSr4xirlKiL2AZV5emS7qFqGC1osJrpUTUiwImwUJXRYJI3DKSDSHJJUHzURou2Fm-BuU0fMTVsCA5plHkltGSIvQc0DBLGIcBTOuAqYDa5RG_npoh7IUZtZ7mZ2NnbCVXxBKe&q=sandbox&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwikv-HnncKQAxXa97sIHSklNL8QtKgLegQIEhAB&biw=1830&bih=863&dpr=1.05 sandbox], like those used by kids on parks. It has the little blue toy shovel.{{pb}}I've instead always found it weird that in the old sandbox icon there is no "sand box". It's just a pile of sand on the ground. [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 16:04, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Looks like a blue [[Pooper-scooper]] to anyone in North America. <span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:-15deg;color:darkblue">'''[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]'''</span><span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:15deg;color:darkblue">[[User talk:Moxy|🍁]]</span> 16:07, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::We should be using a sandbox'''ing''' symbol [https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/sandboxing-editable-stroke-vector-icon-2581493775] or [https://www.flaticon.com/free-icon/sandbox_6843458] vs a playground sandbox symbol [https://imgbin.com/png/AMamUZSY/playground-icon-sandbox-icon-png]. That said will implement the above request in 24 hours if there's no objections. <span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:-15deg;color:darkblue">'''[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]'''</span><span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:15deg;color:darkblue">[[User talk:Moxy|🍁]]</span> 16:15, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::This is a fully-protected edit request. However, as a template editor, you should still be able to implement the third suggestion. [[User:FaviFake|FaviFake]] ([[User talk:FaviFake|talk]]) 16:22, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::Yeah let's just do it and see if people complain. <span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:-15deg;color:darkblue">'''[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]'''</span><span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:15deg;color:darkblue">[[User talk:Moxy|🍁]]</span> 16:25, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
I have updated [[Template:Editnotices/Namespace/Module]] and [[Template:Editnotices/Namespace/Template]]. Please note the third page has been deleted &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 15:55, 1 November 2025 (UTC)